This week, Sick Papes brings you an exclusive interview with Dr. Heather M. King, the celebrity author of a dangerously feverish pape that rejiggers how we think about the the evolution of tetrapod locomotion (i.e., how four-legged animals walk).
SP: Your pape describes a hybrid walking/swimming gait in lungfish which looks curiously like that of four-legged critters that walk on land. Do lungfish need to trundle along on the bottom of the lake, or can they also swim throughout the water column like normal self-respecting fish? What do you think is the advantage of the lungfish style?
HK: They certainly can use their body/tail to swim as typical fish do, but they tend to do this only when frightened or startled. However, they seem to nearly always use their fins for walking instead. We don’t know why exactly they do this, but we have some hypotheses: using the fins to walk instead of the whole body would use less energy, since the muscles in the fins are so much smaller than the muscles in the body. Lungfish live a long time and don’t seem to move much (in my experience) so their metabolism might be lower than that of other fish, and it would likely be to their advantage to use the fins for slow movements. In addition, aquatic animals can sense each other by tracking the vibrations in the water made by other animals, and it’s possible that lungfish use these smaller movements to be more ‘quiet’ underwater, which would help them both avoid predators and ambush potential prey.
SP: Lungfish defy classification: they possess traits of both fish and land-dwelling critters. Some describe them as unlikely monsters. Do you identify personally with these misfits of the animal kingdom? If so, what childhood experience led you to realize that you were somehow “different”?
I knew I was different the first time I saw the lungfish. It was like looking in a mirror.
SP: I read on Wikipedia that lungfish can survive the seasonal drying out of lakes by just chilling in the mud for many months. Is it possible that the walking-like propulsion you described is also useful during mud season?
HK: Yes, that’s true. They make a cocoon of mud and their own mucus and survive in a state of hibernation for up to 4 years. This behavior has been studied fairly well, and it turns out that they actually use their axial muscle and head to burrow into the mud. The fins are not strong or large enough to contribute.
SP: Imagine that you had a time machine and high-speed video camera. Given your obsession with the “water-to-land transition”, what historical epoch would you travel to, and what would you film? Who would you bring with you as your ideal assistant?
HK: I would like to travel to the Mid or Late Devonian with my camera, and film any creature I saw. I would probably take my husband as my assistant because he’s the only one that would still help me/like me as I traversed the near-alien landscape in search of large fishapods, all while muttering about the insane amounts of Nature papes I would author upon returning to the present day. I can be a little obnoxious sometimes.
SP: Figure 3 clearly shows a lungfish doing a push-up, yet your paper describes this behavior as “lifting the body and appendages clear of the substrate”. Is there some reason that you chose to use this jargony description instead of the more familiar colloquialism? Isn’t this what’s wrong with science, that scientists refuse to describe anything in plain-spoken English that my dad, Newt Gingrich, or your average hairdresser could understand? Why not just call the pape: “Lungfish walk like horses and do push-ups”?
HK: I didn’t realize that you were the son of Newt - tell him to rein it in a bit on TV or he’s gonna blow this nomination thing. You will have to take this one up with the powers that be - such jargon is necessary for publication, since so many journals demand short, succinct, articles. Taking the time to explain exactly how I define ‘walk like horses’ and ‘push-ups’ would have taken at least half a page. Plus, I doubt your dad, Newt Gingrich, and I have the same idea of what ‘walking like a horse’ means.
SP: You show that lungfish not only walk- they also bound. Do they move faster when they bound, like cats?
HK: Based on studies on other animals, gait transitions are indeed associated with changes in speed. However, we did not find evidence for transitions to the bounding gait being associated with an increased speed. Perhaps the lungfish know that they are outsiders, and like many outsiders, decide not to conform to the norm.
SP: Your pape is being covered extensively by the press (National Geographic, Discover, Scientific American, NY Times). Why do you think your pape has received so much attention compared to other PNAS papes from 2011, like, for example, that one about flies perceiving a really fascinating visual illusion?
HK: I am sure that said fly vision pape is of equal or greater value than my pape - all I can say is that some of my co-authors are very good at promoting their research and know the value of a well-written press release. I merely benefit from their experience and notoriety.
SP: My sources report that you were once so exhausted from working on this project that you fainted in a bank, throwing thousands of dollars of cash into the air as you collapsed to the floor. Any comment?